New member in Ohio

[Hdale85]

Is the 446 kit a lot more then the 430? If so I'll probably just go for the 430.

 

[beastlywarrior228]

Hey does FST still sell the 446 kit? They don't seem to have a yamaha page anymore? I saw someone mentioned a 460 stroker kit though....who sells that?

ya im building a 446, cwr or cycle works racing does the 460

 

[Hdale85]

Thanks! Only 700 for the 460cc kit.....that's not bad at all..... Hmmmmm :atv:

 

[beastlywarrior228]

haha after machining costs youll probably be at $1800-2g's

 

[Hdale85]

It costs that much to bore the jug and put in the sleeve?

 

[beastlywarrior228]

cases bored too

 

[Hdale85]

Hmmm.... I still can't believe it'd cost 1k to have all that machined. When I got my engine bored and decked on my car it wasn't that much....and there are 4 times more cylinders.

Does the case need to be bored to fit the crank shaft?

 

[bones]

it has to be bored to fit the new sleeve .... and the oil galley under the crank has to be clearanced for the crank

 

[DeadLastRacing]

ya im building a 446

:loco: Riiiiiiiiiiiigggghhhhhtttttt.


Anyone ever hear or know of anyone running the CWR kit? 460......yeash, thats a bomb waitin to happen.

 

[bones]

here is a pic of the case bored

http://postimage.org/image/3svs39emc/

 

[duneracerweston]

Anyon every hear or know of anyone running the CWR kit? 460......yeash, thats a bomb waitin to happen.

i agree ive checked with them before and it runs at 12:1 comp and that much power on a 350 bottom end with 80's tech in it all cast iron parts whooo i wouldnt wanna be riding it when it lets loose!!

and bones id sure hate to be the poor fellow who had to clean ^^THAT^^ out to be clean enough to run

 

[Hdale85]

:loco: Riiiiiiiiiiiigggghhhhhtttttt.

Are you saying he's not building a 446? I think even the 430 needs the case bored for the sleeve doesn't it?

 

[Deuce]

If you go with one of the big bore motors, you should also do the oil cooler mod. That extra compression and displacement, along with thinner cylinder walls, will only add to the heat that the motor has to endure.

 

[Hdale85]

Yeah the oil cooler is definitely on the list. I saw someone here modifies the case so that makes it nice and easy.

 

[2kwarr]

Ohio must be the warrior capital of the world lol

 

[Hdale85]

It may be.....I don't live here by choice though lol

 

[beastlywarrior228]

Are you saying he's not building a 446? I think even the 430 needs the case bored for the sleeve doesn't it?

its just on the back burner right now.

and yes they need an oil cooler and id highly recommend a spal fan

 

[Hdale85]

Seems anything in the 400cc range requires case boring as they all seem to be sleeved. I think it's CWR shows they offer boring for the 400/410cc ones of the case for 50 dollars? At least that's what it looks like on the price list.

 

[duneracerweston]

Those kits are notorious for over heating and running hot!!!!!!

 

[Hdale85]

Which kits? The 460cc? If adding an oil cooler with fan I imagine it should help a lot of that. I'm not sure I want to spring for a 460cc as I think that may be pushing it a bit too far and I want this to be pretty reliable. I'm thinking the 400-430cc kits are likely where I'll be at. I don't expect to turn this into a racer.....

On that note I also have stumbled across a YFZ450 that needs a top end rebuild tonight for a grand....... now I'm trying to scrape pennies together so I can shoot the guy and offer lol!