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jasonp
04-07-2007, 08:15 PM
Yeah,
It turns over great.. has good compression, getting gas and has spark. This is really weird. I can get it to start and run just great if I'm push started (starts within a second) but if I try and start it with the switch then it will crank and crank... sometimes I can get it started sometimes not. I have to crank the piss out of it then sometimes it will start. I suppose it's time to check the stator, cdi, or pickup coil.. son of a bitch. Anybody else have this problem or lead me in the right direction? Thanks

DeathShadow
04-07-2007, 08:54 PM
Does it pop-start easy?

jasonp
04-07-2007, 10:34 PM
Yeah... if another fourwheeler is pushing me then I just dump the clutch and it starts right up.

wie1086
04-07-2007, 10:58 PM
Try jump starting it -if you do it off a car, don't leave cables on any longer than needed -to much amperage. A weak battery may be cranking it to slow - or possibly starter needs rebuilt "new brushes"

jasonp
04-07-2007, 11:04 PM
I did try that.. It does seem to help a little bit but still as soon as I get a push.. The thing fires right up. It's really wierd. Considering that when I'm getting pushed I have it in 4 or 5 gear and it barely turns over.

jasonp
04-08-2007, 11:33 AM
Well I went through and checked out everything. Coil I just replaced with a Hotshot one just because. I don't really know if it was worth it or not.
Source Coil resistance.. spec is 270-330 ohms. I have 481 K ohms! Seems to be a little off.
Pickup Coil resistance.. spec is 171-209 ohms. I have 181 ohms. So with in spec.
I guess I should repace the source coil. Where can I pick a quality one up for a little cheaper then what Yamaha wants? $422.00.. It looks like you have to buy stator and everything! Fuck if that's the case I just buy a high output one or something and get the complete one from Ricky's?
Also if any of you want to know the spec's for the stator they are .7 to .89. I tested that as well and found that to be good. I had .7 ohms

jasonp
04-08-2007, 11:43 AM
Duh... if it's the source coil then it's on the stator. I'm looking at complete assemblys at rickystator.com. $150.00 dollars and get you the whole one with factory ends. Wow.

warriorcliff77
04-10-2007, 04:13 PM
^^Great guy to deal with, got mine from there, and a pair of his blue xenon headlight bulbs!

xj4me
04-10-2007, 06:36 PM
i had those symptoms and the stator from ricks solved them 4 me

dswwarrior350
04-11-2007, 01:55 AM
is this what your looking for?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Yamaha-Warrior-PICK-UP-COIL-PULSER-COIL_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ43976QQitemZ300094 125560QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V

DeathShadow
04-11-2007, 03:35 PM
Be careful of cheap stator companies - 9 times out of 10 they DO NOT put out what they should or burn up very quick! I learned this several times trying to put cheap units in customers bikes to try and save them money; its not worth it IMO. Id buy Rick's Motorsport Electric Inc. or OEM.

jasonp
04-11-2007, 06:19 PM
Shit death I already went rickystator.... damn!

DeathShadow
04-11-2007, 11:06 PM
When you install it see what it puts out vs. OEM spec. I have not used that company, who knows! It may be good stuff!

jasonp
04-13-2007, 08:23 PM
Pretty awesome.. Replaced it and hit the starter button and started right up instantly. It's been a long time since it did that. Got it hot and tryed it... started right up again. I'm really happy. I'll check output and see how much it puts out.

dave76
05-20-2007, 12:58 AM
I think we'll make this one a sticky so it's easy to access if you think your having trouble with you stator.

jasonp
05-20-2007, 01:10 AM
The reason why you can push start the fourwheeler and have it run is because the CDI has two inputs from the engine to create spark or trigger the coil to fire.. One it uses the source coil when starting or when your pushing the starter button and the engine is turning over.. the CDI uses the source coil as a trigger for telling the coil to spark basically.. If the source is bad then it won't start with the starter button. If the bike is running it uses the other pickup coil for the trigger so this is why you can acutally push start the bike.

journey1381
09-30-2007, 12:33 PM
my warrior had the same problem.... i took to a local shop and they said the reverse lever was cutting the spark out and thats why it wouldnt start.. so i have to fiddle with the lever to get her to fire up.....try checking that out also...

dessie
10-11-2007, 02:20 PM
ive replaced everything on mine you guys gave me a few ideals i am going to try and see if it helps. ive replaced everything still cant get a spark will try some more

fperri302
11-12-2007, 10:03 PM
Earlier in this topic it is mentioned that the Source Coil resistance should be 270-330, Pick up coil 171-209 and stator .7-.89 . My question is..... 1 is this correct info? And 2 if so does it apply to an 89 warrior as well?

xkingraptor350x
12-09-2007, 09:18 PM
my warrior had the same problem.... i took to a local shop and they said the reverse lever was cutting the spark out and thats why it wouldnt start.. so i have to fiddle with the lever to get her to fire up.....try checking that out also...
so would this effect not having spark at all? ive checked over every thing i can think of but i get no power to the coil. i bought a new cdi box because i was told it went bad becasue there is power going in but none coming out, but it still did not fix it. i am up in the air with this and i have not been able to ride since my last race on aug. 04 any help would great!

88racinwarrior
01-08-2008, 10:06 AM
i have a 88 yamaha warrior and it will only spark like twice in 30 seconds and its blue spark. i tried a different coil and the worst of it is i just put a new stator in it and it still wont spark. any ideas
thanx Josh

jasonp
01-08-2008, 11:13 PM
why don't you guys try and ohm the known compents out first before throwing parts at it. Seems like an great way to spend money, and you might as well take it to the dealer.

jasonp
01-11-2008, 01:28 AM
http://manuals.dqt.be/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=36&func=select&id=5&orderby=2&page=1

bige
02-29-2008, 07:10 PM
I am having a starting issue as well. when qaud is cold it just turn over and over and over doesnt want to fire, but if u push start it and get it warmed up ride around a bit it will start right away untill u let it get cold again. i thought maybe i was losing compression but has to much power and to smooth when running pulled starter it seems fine, although there is a slight clunking when starting stops as soon as it cranks up. im not an expert of ever and intermediate on warriors as i just recently go it. any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Thanks Justin

jasonp
02-29-2008, 11:00 PM
sounds like maybe the choke in the carburator might be plugged with dirt.
Or your battery could be weak and causing the bike to turn over slower, thus making the engine start hard. Once you get the bike warmed up it puts a charge on the battery and warms the cells up inside to help improve the batterys output. Also engine oil thins out the oil slightly and warms it causing the bike to turn over faster.
Cold are we talking about -0 temps?

bige
03-03-2008, 08:56 PM
sounds like maybe the choke in the carburator might be plugged with dirt.
Or your battery could be weak and causing the bike to turn over slower, thus making the engine start hard. Once you get the bike warmed up it puts a charge on the battery and warms the cells up inside to help improve the batterys output. Also engine oil thins out the oil slightly and warms it causing the bike to turn over faster.
Cold are we talking about -0 temps?

Rebuilding the carb tomorrow, so i will let u know about that, battery is good charged it up and havent had problems with it, and by cold im talking 55 60 down in florida. just not running tempature for the motor. Like i said carb kit is on the way and will clean it tomrrow, other than that im starting to think i may have an issue with my starting gear (flywheel). I really hope not though thanks for the input any other ideas greatly appreciated.

Justin

ruffryder6613
03-08-2008, 08:27 AM
i Have this same exact problem, the guys who had the quad before put a stator on, but still wont crank. Sprayed carb cleaner in the spark plug hole, got fire and it wont even try to crank.

bige
03-12-2008, 07:04 PM
Its driving me nuts im about to pull the side of the case off and check starter gear see if that one bearing is going out or something? i dont know what else could be up? anyone?

markland
05-02-2008, 01:58 PM
Yes, same problem with my 2001, went thru and checked as much as I could by ohms and continuity, all wires were good, ohms were off on the pick up and coil! Would fire right up push starting, but nothing with the electric starter. Went ahead and ordered the whole Ricky Stator setup-coil, stator, pick up and even high rev CDI box along with the cool 45watt blue xenon lights for not much money and it runs like a champ now and I can even see better at night. Very happy now! Mark

05-08-2008, 08:07 AM
yea ive dealt with that crap b4....luckily i had a spare parts warrior to swap parts off and see wtf was wrong but it seemed to be the stator and coil together...lol so i bought a new coil and swapped a stator and it was fine after that....id like to get a rickys stator sometime they seem to be popular

bedajoker
08-12-2008, 05:16 PM
ive read the treads, but if im understanding this rifght your saying that it is possible to push start but not start with button.
my warrior starts great when pushed but when I hit the button I have no spark at all

taylorteamracing
11-08-2008, 07:53 PM
i replaced the cdi the stator assy and the pick up coil and the ignition coil and pppppfffffffffftttttttt nutin when you crank it with the button it will only spark when you release it nice and blue i checked the nutral switch the start relay and nutral relay i am realy fed up with the thing i hope some one here has had this problem before and can help me out


85 warrior
87 lt250r
89 yz125
talon 150 cc
lt160

yamarider
11-09-2008, 03:15 PM
Would it happen to be an aftermarket cdi that you installed? I wouldn't think so since they don't make aftermarket "high rev" ones for the older models (although i can guarantee yours isn't an 85 because 87 was the first production year).

How about the battery? Did you get it load tested, or try jumping it from a stronger power source and see if you get any more spark?

boxhead
06-23-2009, 02:04 AM
The famous clunking while you try to start it is the starter clutch more than likely. Both my best friend and me had to replace ours already. The worst part is that it's right behind the damn stator and you need the yamaha flywheel puller (only $5 or so though). Well maybe not, the worst part is cleaning all of the gasket residue off that damn cover. :( Any small motors in general can be hard to start when cold, I would just expect it if the motor drops below 60 degrees. Mine used to get finicky in the mornings since it drops to the fifties or lower quite a bit here. If you really can't get the motor going when cold your pilot needs to be richer. If your running a hair lean it will be next to impossible to start when cold as mentioned.

09-25-2009, 11:28 PM
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/4/23/289/10567/16476/PITEM/Ricks-Motorsport-Electrics-Hot-Shot-Series-Pulse-Coil-1989-Yamaha-Warrior-350-Parts.aspx
to anyone that has a good stator all except the pulse coil...
buy just the coil here :)
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/4/23/289/10567/16476/PITEM/Ricks-Motorsport-Electrics-Hot-Shot-Series-Pulse-Coil-1989-Yamaha-Warrior-350-Parts.aspx

mikeb
04-24-2010, 01:21 AM
i have 95 warrior and i all of a sudden am having the same problem. my spark plug fouled out and the rubber intake on the carb cracked. i replaced the plug and it started but after about 5 minutes it quit running. it just turns over and over now. could it be the stator or battery..help

mikeb
04-24-2010, 01:27 AM
oh yeah i replaced the intake also. somebody tell me wut tha dill is.

mike75925
05-11-2010, 10:18 AM
rmstator, cheap prices and a one year warranty. you have to show how you installed it so they can warranty it though. they say pics or video is fine.

mike75925
05-14-2010, 06:37 PM
i had spark only when i let off the starter button. i changed the cdi and it fired right up. of course mine has an '87 rotor with a '99 cdi and stator. my stator puts out 13.74 at idle, so stator is good. it has more than enough spark, good source and should be good p/u. when charging the battery on a smart charger, the charger started acting funny. if i pop start it, and it dies i can normally restart by the button. seems to be a warped cell in the battery.